Talk:Seddie/@comment-5185463-20121216174424/@comment-5679407-20121216194935

@SeddieCupcake: there's no need for that.

@Godlovesusall: I don't believe that it was just a "friendship kiss" either. I think that they were both in the moment and kissed. Dan, the creator and writer, clearly trying to pander, is holding firm that it was a moment between two friends who are going to miss each other. You are forced to accept his context, just as we are, because he created and wrote the show. If he were to say that the kiss between Freddie and Sam in iOMG was just a spur of the moment event, then we would've been forced to accept that, too. But he didn't, so your hypotheticals are irrelevant.

I agree with my fellow Seddiers that the phone conversation between Sam and Freddie in iGoodbye has a greater romantic context because there's no way to misconstrue it. Freddie asked: Do you wanna get back together? Unless he and Sam were in some alternative rock group, I don't know of what else, other than his relationship with Sam, he can be referring. And Sam doesn't refuse, she only reciprocates the question. So their relationship is left open as far iCarly is concerned. What's worse about that kiss for the Creddiers is that Creddie is no longer relevant after iCarly. Sam's character continues on, and Dan has expressed wishes in seeing Nathan reprise his role as Freddie for "more Seddie," in Sam & Cat. Make of that what you will.

As for Freddie's throwing his hands up in the air "in victory," I think it just Dan's bad timing with combining comedy with a somewhat serious moment. But again, Dan also provided context to this saying that it was meant to be funny, not that he finally got Carly. If you're happy believing that iGoodbye is the end-all-be-all for iCarly and its ships, then I have no problem letting you indulge your bliss. Just don't expect me to indulge your delusional prospects moving forward.