Thread:3cooldog92/@comment-3180503-20120618155642/@comment-3247345-20121022040541

That's always what happens. People see something that isn't there but isn't completely unfounded at the same time. I guess people will always be looking for dating relationships that aren't there. Sort of like shipping on the show actually. That kind of thinking has always been foreign to me although looking back my neighbor and I were friends at one point and people always did think we had to be dating when we weren't. It's like an obsession for people. As for Madisen's image I think the "Suga" video largely reinforced the perception that was already there. What made her seem slutty was the fact that she was with Nathan and they wanted that to be Jennette. They naturally searched for confirmations of what they already thought and filtered out things that don't support that. The video may have made the accusations seem more plausable to the unbiased observer but I don't think it created any perceptions that weren't already there. To be honest I think it was the Twitter incident that brought the Madisen hate beyond the paranoid delusions of a few deranged Jathan shippers. I really think Madisen shot herself in the foot with this. In the process she rendered any attempts by Nathan to stand up for her a liability for him rather than an asset for her. Had she not done this I think she would have at least gotten some sympathy from people watching this unfold. Plus Nathan defending her would have looked like more than aiding and abetting Madisen's attacks on Jathan shippers who did nothing to her. Madisen seems to have given these people the perfect opportunity to attack her. Miranda and Jennette probably get a ton of hate just for playing a character in the way of a prefered ship given the intensity of the character hate now. It seems Madisen would have been better off ignoring it like them. But yeah, it does seem that Jathan sort of crystalized for people and anything other than Jathan goes against the grain.

Looking back on all this I have to wonder what would have happened had Jennette started publicly dating a guy if he would have been the focus of hate. I wonder if she tried to defend him if she would end up getting as much hate for it as Nathan has.