Talk:Seddie/@comment-3180503-20150508143850/@comment-3180503-20150508182421

'"What I am saying is that it could have and probably would have happpend with ANY girl Nathan was with." '

That's not true, though. Nathan was rumored to be with many girls in 2009 and early 2010, including Ariana, but none of them dramatically changed Nathan or his dynamic with Jennette the way Madisen did. Suddenly, he was isolating himself from his peers and only hanging out with her. This went on for years.

It isn't until now, when he's finally unattached to Madisen, that he's starting to make new friends. Unfortunately, he held onto the mentality that when you have a significant other you're supposed to devote all your time to that person and only that person. He wasn't like that before.

And you can't possibly tell me that Madisen didn't influence Nathan going deeper into religion. Madisen is every bit the bible-thumper that Nathan is and I'd argue even more so. Does Nathan quote verses every Sunday? No, but Madisen does.

As a result of spending virtually all of his time with her, of course he got sucked even further into his faith of Christianity. Like I said, I understand that he was religious before Madisen, but her presence clearly magnified it.

And okay, you have a valid point about people changing in their late teens and early 20's--Lord knows I have--but that's directly a result of the type of people you surround yourself with. Jennette changed drastically with Paul and Nathan changed drastically with Madisen; it's that simple. :P