Talk:Seddie/@comment-39645298-20191029050422

So I've watched this show before, but upon my rewatch, I'm not sure how it can be denied that Seddie was endgame.

First of all, it was obvious throughout the first couple of seasons that Freddie's obsession with Carly was a one sided crush, as this is literally explained in iSavedYourLife.

Seddie on the other hand was developed throughout the entirity of the show, and two have admitted to sincerely loving each other and expressed interest in getting back together later on in life, something that Carly and Freddie never came close to doing.

The Seddie arc was full of Seddie moments, and at the end of iLoveYou, Sam and Freddie literally tell each other that their relationship isn't working at the current time, but in the future it could... there just isn't any Creddie moments where the two wonder if there could be a relationship between them in the future. Creddie literally isn't mentioned from iSavedYourLife all the way up to iGoodbye, making the kiss feel extremely platonic. There just wasn't any meaning behind it because Dan and the writers of the show decided it would be that way.

As I just said, in iGoodbye the Creddie kiss came out of nowhere and was obviously Dan just trying to keep Creddie shippers as happy as possible. Even in this episode though, Sam called Feddie and Freddie asked if she wanted to get back together again, a continuation of the conversation the two had in iLove You.

The Sam and Cat episode was also chronologically after the events of iCarly, meaning that Sam and Freddie set up a dinner "sort of date" as the most recent event that exists in the iCarly universe.

With all respect to Creddie shippers, I think Seddie was definitly endgame when logically looking at the series and what actually happened. Even if I was the most hardcore Creddie shipper, the show's director Dan clearly made it so that there was only one possible endgame couple: Seddie.

I like Seddie, but I also like Creddie. To me, I could've cared less who ended up with who at the beginning of the series. But as the series played out, with the various Creddie and Seddie episodes and moments, it cannot be argued that Creddie reached the level of Seddie. The evidence is in plain sight right in the show.

Wether you want to believe Freddie eventually ended up with Carly is totally fine, if I was a Creddie shipper that's exactly what I would do. No hate on that ship at all, go for it!

My main issue comes when poeple claim that Creddie actually had a chance, canonically and considering what actually happened in the show, of beating Seddie.

In canon, Creddie had no chance because the creator ultimately went down the Seddie route.

That's all there is to it.