Talk:Seddie/@comment-3180503-20140815182553/@comment-5044859-20140815183946

@M oden I'm sure you would like to blame more of it on Nathan, since Madisen is one of Jennette's BFF's, but I'm sorry, I just see more of Madisen being the problem than Nathan. Jennette and Nathan's friendship was FINE until Madisen entered the picture. As the years went by, it seemed Nathan tried to still reach out to Jennette, and Jennette ran to Miranda instead. Then all of the sudden, we see Jennette and Madisen being BFF's while Nathan hangs on the sidelines, trying to be Jennette's friend too, but it wasn't good enough.

@M oden, most would agree with you and say Nathan's at fault, and I absolutely DO NOT think of Nathan as 100% innocent. He made a lot of mistakes with firing at those fans in 2011 who weren't a part of the Jathan/death threats drama (again, I don't know the WHOLE story), but I'm pretty sure the harsh words were coming from Madisen's crying that the fans were bothering her. Did Madisen deserve death threats? ABSOLUTELY NOT. No one deserves death threats. However, instead of just blocking the people sending the threats and finding comfort in her family and friends, she fired back. As for Nathan, who should have just done an overall message asking the fans to stop, and just block the fans who were attacking him, fired back at fans who may have not been a part of it.

I'm sorry, there's just something really fishy about Madisen....and unfortunately Jennette doesn't see it.