Talk:Seddie/@comment-4233280-20120812203619/@comment-4196911-20120812224403

Also, the assumption by certain Creddiers that Dan can just make Carly suddenly fall for Freddie because he "made" Freddie suddenly fall for Sam misses a few key points.

First, the idea is that Freddie and Sam's entire combative relationship qualifies as Unresolved Romantic Tension. When Dan said Sam and Freddie were playing a "game" (the game of pretending to hate each other because they didn't want to face what their relationship really meant), Dan meant that Freddie was playing the game, too. Creddiers who find Seddie abusive and don't like this idea can't seem to see this, but it's kind of obvious that this is the conclusion Dan Schneider wanted us to draw.

The fact that their relationship could turn quickly from fighting to romance makes sense in any number of tropes, including "Slap-slap-kiss." Freddie and Sam didn't get together by that specific trope, but the point is that once Sam kisses him and Freddie knows what's really happening between them, he has time to think about his feelings without the "game" interfering. The "game" is over, and Freddie has three days while Sam is missing to think about what their relationship really means, and what he wants to do about it. Their entire fighting relationship is a setup for eventual romance. If you think (unlike Dan) that their relationship is "She hits him, he hates her" then you aren't going to be on the same wavelength as teh guy who creates the show, and Seddie realtionship is going to seem surprising to you. But Seddiers weren't just inventing all this stuff in our minds - as post-IOMG episodes clearly show.

Carly and Freddie's relationship is totally different. Freddie never hid anything about his feelings (which didn't involve Sam), and Carly hates secrets and never hides anything. The minute she found out that Sam and Freddie kissed in ITTK, she wanted the whole thing out in the open and talked about immediately. That's just the kind of character she is. Carly has always liked a wide variety of guys for her own reasons. Bad boys, lookers, nice guys, intellectual snobs, nerds. Carly's reasons for not wanting to date Freddie have never had anything to do with his nerdiness. They've been close friends for years, she already knows what a great guy he is. She just doesn't like him in that way because she just doesn't. There doesn't have to be some big psychological reason why she supposedly is in denial about Freddie (as some Creddiers think).

Why would Carly be in denial? When Carly wants a guy, she goes and gets him. She had the green light from Freddie right after iSYL, and she never did anything. I can't put lipstick on that pig and pretend that it really means Carly has these deep feelings about Freddie that she's afraid of. It just doesn't fit her character.