Talk:Seddie/@comment-14284535-20150731002022

I have been watching/listening to the odd iCarly episodes now and then. When I listen to them, there are times where the Seddie seems non-existant in most episodes  Then, I would watch them and what you perceive as Seddieness just leaps off the screen at me. The episodes where this is the most obvious are iHeart Art, iTwins, iThink They Kissed, and iSpeed Date. In them, all of them sound Creddie, but look Seddie. And there is no question as to the reason: it's the Jathan chemistry.

One other thing is definite: Jennette typically initiates the flirty looks. Nathan seems to develop a swagger, but he exaggerates it when Jennette, say, flicks her eyebrows at him. (Watch iWas a Pageant Girl for the most obvious case.)  This seems to confirm my suspicion that Jennette had it bad for Nathan and was really hurt by whatever reason that she felt was so petty, as shown in WNFS.

And whatever they have, it is flat out gone in season 4. The positive vibes I got from the series are all Miranda-Jennette; there is always some kind of odd tension in virtually every scene where Nathan is with either of them - and no matter what Creddiers tell you, it is most obvious in the creepy fantasy, erm, Creddie scene at the end of iGoodbye. (Like I said, I will take bets that, if Miranda and Jennette were candid about it, they would admit that Kissing U, Adored, So Close, Me With You, and Better were initially written by them about Nathan.)