Talk:Seddie/@comment-5679407-20130601024605/@comment-6314968-20130601040017

This a perfect example of giving Carly a free pass, though this is better articulated than it is most of the time. First off, the context. I'm not going to sit around and guess what was going through Carly's head when she did what she did. The only thing I'm going to assert is that Creddie was not endgame. Cartoonorincess's post below is a great overview of why this isn't the case. Trying to explain anything beyond that is a lost cause because the whole shipping thing was FUBARed. I won't attempt to decipher the indecipherable. That means I won't try using context to explain anything other than Creddie is not endgame. Was the kiss romantic? Was a kiss between friends? To what extent was there anything beyond heat of the moment feeling? All good questions but you won't find the answer to them in the "context". You would need good writing for that, something severely lacking in this episode.

So was Carly a bad friend? Even if she wasn't aware of the extent of Sam's feelings as her friend it would have been better to clarify or not do it. But she didn't. Along with non-ship related reasons for not liking Carly I believe we have enough reason to "hate" on Carly. I also don't understand the emphasis on whether they were "in character". There's a debate about whether a lot of things were in character or not, and not just in the finale. It's an interesting question whether they were OOC or not and there's the always tricky question of whether deviation from the normal is OOC or constitutes character development. But in the end it's all a side argument. Carly is what she is whether she's in character or not. Same with everyone else. I don't understand how being in character justifies anything.

As for Freddie, you can count me out of the group that gives this douche a free pass. He's been an asswipe since iOAR and nothing changed in iGoodbye. Not that it matters but Freddie was definitely in character on this one. I believe an ape would be more sophisticated in reacting to the kiss. He was dick to both Carly and Sam in the way he reacted. Maybe he doesn't know what he wants but he needs to let both of them go if that's the case.