Talk:Seddie/@comment-24139638-20140703202831/@comment-5679407-20140704031140

The only "plan" that Dan committed to was introducing Carly's and Spencer's father by the series' end. Stating that "Creddie" was the intention from the very beginning, by mere virtue of Freddie's unrequited crush, is a postured tautology. Especially, since Carly made her feelings clear during their first on-screen interaction. She didn't reject Freddie out of some superficial bias, his "nerdiness," or some soon to be overcomed "flaw." She just wanted to be friends. But, I'd guess some would consider that a flaw. Their dynamic that would proceed the aforementioned interaction was handled jovially--with Carly turning down Freddie's sincere, albeit, humorous advances.

On the other hand, Seddie, though unconventional, fit the trope perfectly. Sam's feelings towards Freddie were skewed and flawed. She constantly lampooned his desirability not just among Carly, but other girls. The irony is, she'd find herself dating him--and subsequently falling in love with him--three seasons later. Seddie wasn't put out there to "shut Seddie fans up." There are hints of Seddie--in the form of belligerent tension--in ALL seasons of iCarly--yes even going back to season 1. The Seddie fandom--which at the time was dwarfed by the Creddie fandom--during Season 1, didn't surge until iKiss. So Dan still had room to experiment with what he liked. Those who claim that Seddie was a mere placement to silence Seddiers are merely employing a derailing tactic to bolster Creddie's integrity in relation to Seddie's. In season one's, iDont Wanna Fight, Freddie states to Sam that "You know, they say when a girl constantly rips on a guy, it just means she has a crush on him." Why would the writer have Freddie state this, to Sam, if the intention was not to have the audience consider the possibility that Sam's modus in harrassing Freddie implies romance? Was that placed there to silence Seddiers?

Though, I can't say with certainty what Dan's intentions were regarding the ships--and I'm not saying Creddie was impossible given iSYL and a possibly different version of iKiss-- but I would argue that the relationship that has recieved most of his focus and development may speak more to his intentions than wishful thinking based on an out-moded one-sided dynamic. The romance that has received more attention and expansion is Seddie, hands down.