Talk:Seddie/@comment-3180503-20140609040305/@comment-24341760-20140609194321

I think Dan just didn't care about the shipping except to the extent it generated publicity and ratings. Like I said, I think "fan war" was him speaking to the audience. I don't think he saw it as that kind of show. I think he was intrigued by the crazy shippers, but also saw the shipping as getting in the way of the show he wanted to do, which was more wacky-situation-based. This became more apparent after the other writers, who may have enjoyed writing character pieces,left. I also think he felt like he "had" to do the arc because of the shipping, but he never intended for them to keep dating, because that would be a different show. So he broke them up, and did it clumsily. It's too bad he didn't realize that the Seddiers didn't necessarily want an entire arc. I think we would have been happy with ongoing hints, and maybe a Seddie confirmation in the last episode. But for some reason he and the network decided to do an arc, and to add insult to injury by having them say "I love you," and making it look like their relationship was unfinished. And Starshine, I agree with you that there was NO INDICATION until igoodbye that Carly returned the feelings. And there was no indication that Freddie still liked her until IOAR. It depends on your definition of Creddie "moment." For me, that's a moment where it seems like they like each other, or there's a hint of something more there. But some Creddiers, to judge from their web pages, seem to see it as ANY moment Freddie and Carly are together and have a conversation. If that's how you see it, then sure, there are lots of "Creddie moments." But I saw no indication of a reciprocal interest from Carly AT ALL until igoodbye. Seddie, by contrast, was always either flirty, or at least seemed to both feel the same way about each other, even if it was animosity. It was "mutual." This seemed to escalate after the arc, in fact. It does seem like there was a jealousy storyline in the last season with ioar, ipear store, and iget banned. They clearly had some unresolved tension. And Carly was purposely kept out of the pear store and banned plots, and given her own love interest. There must have been some purpose to writing it like that, beyond setting up Creddie. You don't need to have bickering/jealous Sam and Freddie at all if you're going to do Creddie. If they hadn't done ipear store and iget banned, I might be inclined to agree that the intent was to abandon Seddie after the arc. But I can't.