Talk:Seddie/@comment-3180503-20150508143850/@comment-3180503-20150508175859

@Moden But virtually none of these changes surfaced in Nathan until he started dating Madi. Yes, he was religious but it didn't define his very being before. Madisen also predates a lot of the changes we eventually saw in Jennette.

I repeat, the Jathan drift DID NOT happen gradually; it basically happened overnight as soon as Madisen entered the picture. Nathan was still trying to reach out to Jennette for a while, and still does more or less to this day, but I think the more Jennette ignored him, the more Madisen sucked him in and the more he became an empty shell of himself.

And why did Jennette start to ignore Nathan? Many people like to believe that Nathan did something absolutely horrible to justify it but I don't buy it. Jennette only started to act differently around Nathan once Madisen showed up. You could say that he "chose" her or whatever but it's not like Nathan completely cut ties with Jennette once he got a girfriend. Jennette is the one who inexplicably cut ties.

There is absolutely no evidence to support that Nathan hurt her as badly as people claim. True, I can see why him dating Madi would piss her off but the fact that she befriended Madi later shows that she just chooses to hold this emotional grudge on Nathan and is too stubborn to let go.

Nathan continually praises and supports Jennette and all she does in return is silently diss him. The whole Jathan drift always struck me as more Jennette's problem than Nathan's. Yes, Nathan is flawed and has made (many, many) mistakes in the past that have proved to be detrimental to their friendship but Jennette was the one that first started to ignore him.