Talk:Creddie/@comment-4959748-20130109000046/@comment-5679407-20130111045017

@Sockstar1: Cultural tropes may be relevant on how we perceive the situations in iCarly, and I don't deny that they influence Dan's writing, but Dan ultimately decides how Carly feels and how Freddie feels. iCarly is Dan's work of fiction; it's his story. How can you claim more authority to a story than the author him/her-self? I, too, believe that Dan is pandering to Seddiers as a means to spur viewership of Sam & Cat. But he has openly expressed that in his thoughts, a Creddie romantic relationship was not canon. Whether you accept that, doesn't change that the future of Creddie, and yes, the future of Seddie is in Dan's hands. I've been wanting to ask, though, if Dan hasn't been above pandering to Seddiers, what makes you think that Dan has been above pandering to Creddiers? Hmm...?

@Godlovesusall: Dan is the god of the iCarly-verse; it's as I said to Sockstar1, it's his story. If Dan wanted to kill Carly and her father on the plane to Italy, he very could've, because he writes the story. The very kiss that we are arguing about is a creation of Dan's. So to say that his thoughts don't matter is baffling. I'm not arguing how the kiss looks--because I've said before that the kiss has a romantic implication--but none of that matters as much as what Dan thinks of the kiss because he decides how the story moves forward. And if you don't believe that the story will move forward--like in Sam & Cat--then I might as well stop my argument here. Even if Dan is making a fool of himself, that for him, alone, to decide. I did not write iCarly; you did not write iCarly; Dan wrote iCarly. You tell me whether that speaks louder than words...

@Creddie4Life: When was Creddie and Seddie a contest? In spite of the kiss in iGoodbye, I still argue that Seddie (with Cam) is the most developed ship on iCarly. Believe it or not, I get Creddie. I understand the desire to see the boy with the crush get the girl. But, the desire to see the girl "choose" the boy isn't based on her feelings, but on the boy's crush. Creddie's development is severely lacking. If the Creddie romance was approached a bit differently--with much more development--I would have no problem supporting it. I love Carly's character.