Talk:Seddie/@comment-24856071-20140225215918/@comment-24341760-20140228160934

Embargo: crucial difference between shows like bbt where "girl sees what's been in front of her the whole time" and Creddie: in that type of show, the boy doesn't actually come out and tell the girl, repeatedly, how he feels - he keeps it hidden. (We know Leonard likes Penny, but he never tells her he loves,her and wants her to be his gf. Ross and Rachel is another one - she didn't know he liked her, and he never asked her to be with him, and she never directly refused). By contrast, Freddie from the beginning repeatedly and annoyingly tells Carly he loves her and begs her to go out with him, and she, expressly, repeatedly, turns him down in no uncertain terms. That's why Creddie doesn't fit this trope. There's no secret, or mystery, for her to discover, "right in front of her" so it doesn't make for as good a story. You could, in fact, argue that Seddie fits this trope more, because both Sam and Freddie finally figure out what's right in front of them.