User blog comment:IEmbargo/iCarly - What Do You Think?/@comment-14284535-20140323020935/@comment-24856071-20140323025329

1. Nickelodeon putting a shot from the elevator scene on the entry to the main iCarly page with the caption clearly stating that you would never see Sam and Freddie together again;

I'm pretty sure they said "this might be the last time you will ever see Sam and Freddie like this again." If not, that doesn't necessarily mean "this is the last time you'll see them like this because Carly and Freddie are meant to be"

''2. how triumphant-sounding Dan Schneider's wife was shortly before iGoodbye aired about the influence she has and her being Creddie. ''

Of course she would be triumphant, Carly and Freddie kiss! But that doesn't necessarily mean that Carly and Freddie express that they're in love with each other (which they don't) and that they're going to start dating, a kiss between them I think would make his wife excited enough, even though it doesn't necessarily mean that Carly and Freddie are together. Say his wife was a Seddier (hypothetical), if she heard about iKiss, I bet she would be pretty darn excited, as much as she was before iGoodbye aired, since Sam and Freddie kiss. As we know, Sam and Freddie don't show hidden feelings for each other in iKiss, they just share a kiss. But it's enough to get Seddiers excited.

''IMHO, the obvious interpretation that a casual fan would have for both Carly's and Freddie's awkwardness after the kiss was because their friendship had crossed into the romantic area - and they realised that there is no going back. ''

Well, I'm sure SOME neutral fans probably saw it that way. But even if I WASN'T a Seddier, I would see that the kiss made them uncomfortable because it was AWKWARD and WEIRD, especially on Carly's part. Yes, the fist pump would show that ACTUALLY Freddie enjoyed the kiss, but to me it seemed (in Carly's POV) that "okay, I kissed him, it was mad awkward, I want to get out of here and move on ASAP." What you added about the Seddie kiss in iOMG, I have to say that was definitely different, especially how it was handeled. Yes, there was awkwardness, but also, a lot of shock, especially on Freddie's part. And something they don't show is what happens RIGHT after the kiss, but I have a feeling it definitely didn't go how what happened after the Creddie kiss did. I have a feeling Sam ran off as soon as she could, as she and Freddie didn't even know Carly saw them. If they had stayed there longer, and even had an exchange, I'm sure they would have noticed Carly.

So Carly looks at them twice: just before making a point about forcing the connection; and then just before she makes the point about just being friends.

You know, sometimes cameras make it SEEM like something happened, but it didn't. If Carly was talking TO them as well, we would have been shown EXACTLY a connection made between Carly, Sam and Freddie rather than a head turn towards where Sam and Freddie are. And remember what Freddie says when Sam stops the elevator? "She wasn't talking about us." If Carly was looking towards them and they made eye contact, why would he say that, since it would have been clear Carly WAS talking to and about them? I think a neutral fan would make the assumption that Sam and Freddie OVERHEARD Carly talking to Spencer and his girlfriend, not that Carly was talking TO them.

As to the constant saying that Carly's speech was Dan Schneider talking, well, I don't know. Maybe you're right, I'm sure Creddiers agree with you, and maybe some neutral fans. But again, if that's the COMPLETE case, WHY have Sam be upset at seeing Carly and Freddie dance in iSpeed Date (which Dan literally CONFIRMED), WHY show AFTER the breakup that Sam CLEARLY still has feelings for Freddie, even if Freddie went back to Carly? Again, if Creddie was ALWAYS the ultimate ending, why not have BOTH Freddie and Sam move on, so Carly and Freddie can be together without the lingering idea that Sam CLEARLY still has feelings for Freddie, and have CARLY shown to be feeling more towards Freddie rather than JUST Freddie moving back to Carly? You can say it was "bad writing", however, you have stated MULTIPLE times that this is a BILLION DOLLAR COMPANY that wouldn't make little mistakes that can be clearly noticable. If it was the case that Creddie was ALWAYS endgame, I truly believe they would NOT have shown CLEAR INDICATIONS that Sam still loves Freddie. IMHO, I do believe that at the BEGINNING of iCarly, the plan was Creddie, but as the moved into the show, they kept on going back and forth between Creddie and Seddie, not having an ultimate game plan.