Talk:Seddie/@comment-5125986-20120602204948/@comment-4196911-20120604010423

'People change their minds overtime but I tend to think the last thing a person says about something reflects how they feel about it most recently. Beyond that, the point is she did make a definitive statement about it.'

Understood, we just disagree about it. Miranda's been consistent about wanting Carly to get a boyfriend. I don't just assume she'd only be happy if it's Freddie just because it's the most recent thing she said.

'This is a show that devoted a two part episode to mocking shippers! I really don't think they care about offending fans. Many shows do but this isn't one of them'.

See, here's where I disagree. I think Dan was taken aback at the negative feedback from FanWar. I think he thought the fans would be excited to be featured on the show, and he really didn't expect people to be offended by his sense of humor about the matter. That's just the way he is. Dan doesn't usually expect people to take his jokes personally, and was surprised at the way it turned out. That's why he felt he had to apologize on his blog - which he did.

'The point was that the cast does make definitive statements and don't appear to be barred from doing so. As did Dan's wife. '

They're not barred from talking about it, but I do think they're discouraged, because it's bad PR. No network can make actors shut up, but that's hardly the point. Look at Dan's wife's tweet on the matter - she sounded almost afraid to give an opinion, like she thought she shouldn't take sides publicly - and she isn't even directly involved in the show. There's also no other reason for Nathan to spend four years never telling which ship he likes best when asked, and totally playing it down the middle when asked his preference. Jennette was always careful about what she said, too.

Even in Nathan's Ustream where he said Creddie would make more sense in real life but Seddie was more interesting for television, it's obvious he was really still trying to play it down the middle. I agreed with him totally, but it didn't stop some people from taking his statements the wrong way. Even when the actors say things that might irritate some people, this seems to happen even when they aren't trying to do so.

I don't think these things are accidents. Just because the actors sometimes say things to irritate fans, doesn't mean they always think it's a good idea to do so, or that the network thinks it's a good idea. Perhaps the gloves are off now because the show has been canceled, but if true that would be a new development.