Talk:Creddie/@comment-5099474-20121124190618/@comment-2032682-20121124191608

The 'leading' Seddie fans are pushing for a 'neutral' or 'shipless' ending by twisting events and meanings using long posts referencing all sorts of ideas, tropes and moments in the show around until it fits their purposes.

In this case, the purpose is "don't accept Creddie as canon endgame".

If you put people with no deep knoweldge of the show or the fandom and showed them the kiss, told them it was the last episode of the show then asked them "do you think that means they like/love each other?" 100% would say yes. Even if you compare it to the Seddie scene.

Seddie fans built their ship around 'secret seddie' for so long that when the other ship (Creddie) is out in the open, they revert back to their natural 'habitat' of 'subtext' and twisting things around.

The simple explanation is:

"Carly loves Freddie. After her scene with Spencer, Carly thinks about things for a moment, it sinks in that she will be leaving to go to Europe very soon, without Freddie. From there she thinks about her feelings about leaving Freddie, and this uncovers her feelings. She accepts them finally and then she acts on them without hesitation by kissing him. Freddie still loves Carly so he kissed back then celebrates. They will start a long distance relationship when Carly settles in Italy."

The problem is that doesn't fit in with Seddie.

So they make changes, they twist meanings. They interpret things different. They see 'subtext' where none exists, using their large knowledge of the show to make things fit their own pattersn and their own confirmation bias towards Seddie.

People who don't watch shows in such detail aren't going to see those because they aren't really there.

They see the 'text' on screen without existing bias.

And in this case, the text is Carly kisses Freddie and he likes it. Which means canon and endgame when it happens as the last romantic moment in a tv show.