Talk:IGoodbye/@comment-3247345-20121224022124/@comment-3247345-20121224203110

@Godlovesusall My issue with the Creddie kiss is the show didn't tell us what it meant. Maybe it meant something and maybe it didn't. Dan left that unclear. If Carly and Freddie would have talked about it and made clear that there were feelings there I would have given the Creddiers that but Dan's crappy writing made it impossible to predict with any certainty what it meant. Anything interpretation we try to give it is nothing but speculation simply because Dan didn't give us anything to work with other than the moments themselves. Same with Freddie asking Sam if he wanted to to get back together. We don't know what if either shipping moment meant anything. As for Freddie celebrating, the thing is it's always been about what Carly is feeling when it comes to Creddie. Like you said, we've always had Freddie's side of the equation. That's why they should have talked about it. To make Carly's feelings clear.

With Carly going to Italy, again, had we been given more info on her feelings it would have been easier to predict how long she plans to stay. If the Creddie kiss did mean something on Carly's end (I'm not ruling out that possibility) then presumably her stay would be short.

And yes, I kind of figured that out about Dan after iLY, although in all honesty I held out some sort of hope that he would redeem himself for all his trolling (by making the ending reasonably based off the events of the show regardless of how shipping ends and making the ending clear). I hate how he says he doesn't like when his fans fight but then he writes episodes that end up inciting a fan riot. It's hypocritical at best and evil at worst.