Talk:Seddie/@comment-3180503-20150727225501/@comment-4257094-20150728203529


 * Bad writing. Seriously, compare the memorable one-liners of iCarly, Drake and Josh, Victorious to the humor in Sam & Cat. Huge difference - Dan has lost his touch.
 * Characters that became caricatures of themselves. We've discussed this many times but the difference between Sam (Seasons 1-3 of iCarly) & Cat (Seasons 1-2 of Victorious) and Sam & Cat (in s&c) is outstanding. They turned the characters from funny and likable to plain annoying.
 * Gearing towards a younger audience. They're trying to do this with Henry Danger as well. Nick clearly wants Dan to win back people under 10 years old. With S&C, there were too many little kid characters for the show to be enjoyable. I missed the more mature, teen dynamic of Victorious, Zoey 101, Drake & Josh. It just felt like a kiddy show in a way that the shows aforementioned never did.
 * And yeah, like Embargo pointed out, the dynamic between Ariana & Jennette and Ariana & Victorious would have been different without S&C. I'm not entirely sure about the latter because I'm assuming that Ari & Vic already didn't like each other before S&C considering the way that they came at each other but I'm pretty sure Ariana and Jennette would be able to bear each other if they didn't have to see each other every week filming the show.

So yeah, it's hard to pick the worst offense because I feel like all of this is very interconnected (i.e. aim towards younger audience --> regression/being safe with the writing). Anyway, like we've already established, it's pretty clear Dan is done. At least we have his past shows to rewatch and don't forget there's tons of great shows beyond Nickelodeon.