Talk:Seddie/@comment-3180503-20150725013102/@comment-25746087-20150725020533

^Yeah, I can see that, with the Moore's planting ideas in Nathan's head and then him going out of his way to make a grand gesture.

But, the reason why I think London and the Moore's were the starters of the "Propose to me after only dating for 2 months" train is based on how Nathan and London have acted throughout their relationship. Yes, in Nathan's other relationships, he has always gone out of his way to make the girl special and talk to her. But in their relationship, it's London whose constantly mentioning Nathan. Even before the proposal, London seemed to mention him almost '''every day. I think Nathan's desperation shows from the fact he actually accepted the idea of getting married to her after being with her for so little in itself-but I think the true "marriage planters" were London and her family, and Nathan accepted instantly because of his extreme insecurity and desperation not to be alone, probably fearing that if he said no, '''he wouldn't be able to be with anyone. Keep in mind of Nathan's probable self-esteem after Madisen moved on so quickly and Carly broke up with him.

I'm almost confident the Moore's are the scheamers in this marriage, and probably everything else that happens after the marriage.