Talk:Creddie/@comment-4542190-20120520081857/@comment-2032682-20120520091917

Well when certain people have been saying that every single moment the show has ever done is 'proof' that Seddie is endgame, when they realise that with 5 episodes left the only moment recently was Freddie liking Carly again, they are getting desperate.

So they are willing to throw aside Freddie's character just so Seddie can have the exact same relationship that failed during the iSeddie arc. Ie one without mutual respect, one where they can't work together (literally now), and one where Freddie very much dislikes what is 95% of Sam's personality and finally one where Sam still abuses him.

They cling to their "Sam said Freddie was still in love with her" and "Go to her" moments, completely ignoring that the the reason Sam did the first one was to mock Freddie's feelings for Carly, and the second one would never have happened if Freddie wasn't in love with Carly again.

It will be interesting to see the reaction of certain Seddie fans when Creddie happens in iRescue Carly or the New York episode.

Jen hates Seddie. Nathan says it's abusive. Miranda wants Creddie to happen. Dan's wife likes Creddie.. Freddie likes Carly and Carly has begun liking guys that are just like Freddie except for being flawed in comparison.

What does Seddie have? One moment of Sam mocking Freddie for his feelings, and another that just confirms that Freddie has a crush on Carly.

Seddie is built on a house of cards, the cards are the 'subtext' that makes perfectly straightfoward events somehow twist to mean "SEDDIE!!". When the house of subtext falls away they'll be left staring at what was in front of their face since iOAR, that Freddie likes Carly and that Carly will like Freddie back, and Sam will be happy for them, and at worst will be unhappy because she doesn't have what Carly and Freddie have together.