Talk:Seddie/@comment-3247345-20141124031700/@comment-14284535-20141124214220

Before I start: I know exactly what it is like to be bullied, beaten, and hurt and then be blamed for it.

Do you have the bullying story right? Because this quote, "First off, for the Broadway thing, Ariana said she was bullied by one of her co-stars, it was the tabloids who said it was a Victorious cast member, not her, she wasn't the instigator there, she was the victim," you make it seem like it has to be Liz Gillies who was the instigator, which seems ludicrous.

Next, how do we know she's been bullied at all? What is the original source and what independent corroborating evidence is there for it?

For Ariana, how do we know she's had problems with her castmates in anything? Again, what is the original source and what is the independent corroborating evidence for the accusations.

Let us assume that Ariana has has had trouble with multiple sets of castmates, even if she is the victim. To quote Dick York as "Lt. Fitzgerald" in "The Purple Testament" from "The Twilight Zone": "How many coincidences add up to a fact?" Sometimes, what you do, no matter how hard you try, makes people hate you. I have dark skin and a turban - trust me, I know this better than anyone.

Conversely, let us consider the thesis about Nathan's issues. Trust me, you can be completely clueless about what you do that annoys people. I have some personality traits that make the guys on TBBT look socially well-adjusted - but I had no idea that they annoyed people until, well, someone told me. So it may or may not be true that they don't get

Lastly, as someone who actually knows celebs or people who work with celebs: I can virtually guarantee that your assessment of everyone involved is largely uninformed, so there is no reason to be too accepting that someone is good or bad - McCurdians, Arianators, etc. alike.