Talk:Seddie/@comment-5998251-20150224023959/@comment-14284535-20150224181155

Please remember that I am an anti-shipper who has worked to understand your perspective.

First, I always answer the abuse accusation with, "How is Carly saying, 'Please, for me?' NOT abusive?"

Second, if you haven't seen it here, my operating theory is that iCarly is DS's way of living out his childhood fantasies (Freddie) with some girl he had a massive crush on (Carly) while others told him the equivalent of "Carly will never love you" and prevented him from getting a chance (Sam). That's why Carly has no flaws, Freddie has none either, and Sam has a plethora of them. It's a Marty/Gary Stu (male version of Mary Sue) by his design. (iPilot is a dead giveaway.)  Thus, his dislike of Seddie permeates the cast, whence none of the mains believe in it.

As also stated here, it is pretty clear that other writers - often vastly superior writers to DS - saw something in the Sam-Freddie and Carly-Freddie dynamic that made them push Seddieness into their stories. I don't think you're delusional here - IMHO, many of the outside writers strongly preferred Seddie to Creddie. It is too bad for you that they are all gone by the time iOMG rolls around.

When DS gets total control of the series after season 3, he seems to be trying to get the series back on track by throwing the Seddiers a bone and then getting back to business with Creddie. That's why the Seddie arc has constant acrimony and has everything wrong being Sam's fault - he's psychologically too weak to have Freddie take any blame (not to mention that he doesn't believe in it). That's why we should inexplicably accept Freddie saying that "only Carly likes" him in iStill Psycho and all the other garbage that undermined his character the rest of the way.

Lastly, unless the people who wrote the stories tell you otherwise (all of Doctor Who before Russel Davies turned his crush on Tom Baker into the Mary Sue of Rose Tyler), shipping is not really delusional; it is your identification within the characters that resonates with something you would really want in a real relationship. Read the following for some perspective:

http://icarly.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:IEmbargo/On_Shippers_and_Shipping_-_Part_One

http://icarly.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:IEmbargo/On_Shippers_and_Shipping_-_Part_Two

http://icarly.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:IEmbargo/On_Shippers_and_Shipping_-_Part_Three

http://icarly.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:IEmbargo/On_Shippers_and_Shipping:_Part_Four

http://icarly.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:IEmbargo/On_Shippers_and_Shipping_-_Part_Five

I hope this helps.