User blog comment:XxiOMGxx/Why I don't ship Creddie/@comment-4402317-20110909033503/@comment-4061054-20110909123440

lol yup. Civilized debates where neither shipper takes everything as a personal attack against them. ;) I'm going to split up your comment into sections and respond to it that way. ;)

"I think a lot of the differences between Creddiers and Seddiers is based off of the interpretations of "wanting to be with someone you can get into a real fight with" and the idea of "first loves"." You made a pretty accurate point. That is usually the difference. The thing about me, however, is the fact that I enjoy love/hate and love/hope. I'm not one of those seddie shippers who despises love/hope. If I really thought Freddie was in love with Carly,and if she had been unaware of his crush on her, and if he didn't get a sick satisfaction of watching some of her relationships fail (Griffin), I'd most likely be a neutral shipper. I admit that I do tend to favor love/hate, but if Creddie had happened this way, I would finally see it as a sign that his feelings for her were actually meant to be taken seriously rather then as a joke. I would have been able to sympathize with him rather then roll my eyes and laugh each time he made a move on Carly. So I really do enjoy some stories of best friends falling in love, if done correctly. ;)

"I just personally am attracted to that "best-friend/ you get each other and know each other so well that you avoid a lot of arguments because you just want to make the other person happy." I had a feeling that point would be brought up. I mentioned it quite vaguely that while I do find it sweet that they avoid fighting/annoying each other, but it still doesn't help the development. Fighting really does bring you closer together if your relationship is strong enough to make it through. Carly and Freddie should be comfortable fighting with each other and yet just know that they'll still be friends/anything else right after. They should see the other at their worst, which still hasn't happened. The only time Carly and Freddie had a real fight was in iThink They Kissed, but that was a trio fight. It didn't focus in on Carly and Freddie.

"I also am somewhat curious in the average age of Seddie shippers (I don't mean this offensively lol). I've just noticed that most Creddie shippers are older, which is why we lack in the internet department (darn you jobs -_-), and the whole Seddie "excitement" thing is a very stereotypical teenage love interest. It would be interesting to look into for psychology purposes." How I wish that I wasn't a teenager just so I could use myself to prove that statement wrong. But as you probably already realized, I'm 16. However, my sister is 21 and very drawn in to the whole "excitement" thing. Though she is also very drawn in to the whole "best friends, possibly more?" thing going on with Creddie. She's neutral. ;) Some people enjoy both storylines so much, they really don't care which ship happens.

"the debate and the realistic truth for Creddiers is that we have always been waiting for Carly to fall for Freddie, and who knows, we (as Creddiers) still hope she is one of those that has to go through a lot of frogs before she realizes her prince, the one that has always been there for her, is right in front of her." Good point. ;) Yeah, I know that's what most Creddiers are hoping. But the thing is, Carly has had so many opportunities to realize her prince, that I just can't see it happening. When it was just Carly/Freddie left after the double date disaster, Carly could've easily made the comparison between Austin(was that his name?) and Freddie, and realized that Freddie was there all along. She could've lifted her head off of his shoulder, looked sweetly into his eyes, and kissed him. Which would actually kill me if that had happened. ;P

1.Freddie and Carly do bicker, but not as much or as violently as Seddie. Remember when Freddie and Carly were arguing over their interns, or when Freddie pins Carly on the floor? You brought up a really good point about the interns. I completely forgot that moment. Well, I guess now all I can really say is that they don't fight/argue enough. But as for Freddie pinning Carly to the floor, that wasn't exactly a fight. I mean, it was adorable and I would've loved to see him pin Sam to the floor (Come on Dan! Make Freddie overpower Sam just once! ;P), but it wasn't a fight. And the conflict that resulted in the pin down revolved around Carly, Freddie and Sam. It wasn't one of those breaking points that resulted in Carly and Freddie working out their differences. Which I think is really needed for the sake of developing Creddie.

2. "I would argue that Freddie does or did really love Carly in a romantic way (and maybe just in a platonic way now). I believe his actions in iSYL are a good representation of that." Honestly, this is just a matter of opinion and interpretation. I didn't view that as soul mate love. I mean, it said so much that he was willing to risk his life to save hers, that he acted on first instinct the moment that he saw she was in danger. I just don't see why people think you have to be in love to save a friend. I honestly truly believe he would've done the same for Sam had she been in that situation, even though his feelings for her hadn't been established at that point. But like I said, it really is only a matter of interpretation and opinion. ;) Great points you brought up. And aw, then I don't blame you for being biased. haha It's nice to see the guy does get the girl in real life. ;) And ok, lol I'm not going to try to force you to sink your ship. ;P