Talk:Creddie/@comment-3541132-20140211054528/@comment-2032682-20140309082456

''I have seen this enough here. Prove it or, at the very least, give me overwhelming circumstantial evidence that could force down most hardcore Seddiers.''

It's very simple. Freddie broke up with Sam after saying he loved her, in an episode where it was made clear on the show itself, that Sam & Freddie were forcing their relationship to become something it wasn't, in the same way that Spencer and his girlfriend of the week were trying to force their relationship to be something it wasn't.

What they were attempting was a romantic relationship, ie a relationship where "love" would mean romantic love. That was declared by both to be invalid, and forcing the relationship to be something it wasn't. And since the romantic relationship is invalid, it leaves only their use of 'love' to mean the friendship way.

Then later Freddie asked Carly if it was too late to love him, and then in the final episode Carly and Freddie kissed.

If Freddie really loved Sam romantically, he'd would never have:

1) Confirmed that they were forcing a romantic relationship from a non-romantic one. If he did love her romantically, then the entire premise of their relationship being forced is invalid.

2) Following 2, if the relationship wasn't forced, and their feelings were real, then they would never have broken up. They broke up specifically because their feelings weren't romantic.

3) Never asked Carly if it was too late to love him.

4) Kissed Carly back before she left.

5) Celebrated kissing Carly.