User blog comment:Redroses24/Is The Cam Ship More Popular Than Creddie?/@comment-2032682-20110326150328

Creddie has a very large 'silent' supporter base. From my experience in the wider online community, most people support Creddie but aren't active in the iCarly fandom generally because it's become flooded with Seddie supporters. They support Creddie because it's there, it's simple and it happens on the show regularly. They don't participate in the community because they aren't hardcore fans of the show.

Two years ago the fandom was much closer. The main livejournal communities were very similar in numbers with cam/seddie/creddie being in reasonably equal numbers.

Around the middle of Season Two, when iKiss happened, 'vocal' seddie users joined the communities, started flooding it with Seddie, and a certain group actively attacked Creddie users, and then people started leaving. One way to kill an intergrated community/fandom is ship warring, and it happened.

Now the online communities for iCarly are practically dead apart from a handful of places.

Seddie apart from iKiss hasn't had any actual romantic moments on the show itself. The people who ship Seddie are vocal because they have to be. There's very little for anyone watching the show to latch on to. So they create secret seddie, claim that red + blue = purple makes the Seddie colour and it's hidden in the show to 'prove' Seddie (despite the entire red + blue thing being about Spencer and Carly's art teacher hooking up) and attacking Creddie users when they talk about their ship.

There's a reason why there's no such thing as 'Secret Creddie'. Creddie doesn't need to be secret. We have iPilot, iSpy A Mean Teacher, iWin A Date, iSaw Him First, iStage An Intervention, iGo To Japan, iDate A Badboy, iTTK, iSpeed Date, iSaved Your Life, iDo, iStart A Fan War and iHire an Idiot which all have blatant, obvious, out in the open text Creddie.

Even if you take the 'fighting = hidden feelings' a general watcher will have that wiped out by the constant Creddie references, moments and entire episodes.

Cam is a lesbian ship, and no matter what else, it'll never happen on the show because of that, and it's be nowhere near as popular because of that. It's much more popular in the 'fandom'. Just like how Star Trek's online communities are almost entirely devoted to gay pairings like Kirk/Spock, or Supernatural with it's community being completely obsessed with the gay, brother/brother pairing of the two main characters.

In short, Cam might be similarly popular as Cam online, but that's only because those types of gay/lesbian ships are far more popular online than they ever are in the wider community.