Talk:Creddie/@comment-5679407-20121124154101/@comment-5679407-20121124222956

@The sage2600:

 "The reason I treat the moment in iOaR differently when you have the same setup is because it is later addressed in the episode by basically telling us that Freddie likes Carly again. That's the difference. The other difference is that Freddie has a certain levitivity when he mentions getting back together that it can definitely be taken as a joke."

The same could be said for that moment in iOaR. Freddie threw it out there randomnly and immediately back-pedalled. That's quite an interesting question to ask your ex-girlfriend, even if you're just being blasé. And I know you think that he back-pedalled because the moment suddenly became awkward--to which I agree. We just disagree on why that moment was awkward.

"And, saying that Seddiers are the most likely characters to watch Sam & Cat is false. Seddiers are the most likely ones to watch the pilot for any information on Freddie and her, and if Freddie isn't mentioned then they become the least likely ones to watch since their ship isn't in it at all."

That's obvious. Anything can turn off a viewer from continuous watch. And I disagree with you that should there be no Seddie, Seddiers would stop watching. I can only speak for myself, but the reason why I won't find myself watching Sam & Cat, has nothing to do with Seddie or Creddie. I don't particularly like Cat's character, nor do I like Sam's pairing with Cat. I'm huge fan of the Cam friendship, so I'm under the opinion that the only suitable best-friend/"partner in crime" for Sam is Carly. I already made up my mind about Sam & Cat a while, ago.

"The moment Sam gets a love interest, Seddies are either going to abandon ship for new guy or ditch the show, so I doubt Dan is going to cater to Seddie for this reason."

That's where you're wrong. I agree that will get another love interest--as I've said on the Seddie page--but Dan is even less likely to make any relationship between Sam and some else not tumultous. And I'm pretty sure he'll want to use Freddie as a catalyst to conflict.

I see what you guys are saying in that Sam & Cat [should] be a fresh start for Sam. I honestly believe that if Dan wanted this to be a completely new start for Sam, he would've either done the phone conversion differently, or completely leave it out--putting the Seddie issue to rest.