Talk:Seddie/@comment-14284535-20140507231210/@comment-14284535-20140508212725

Wow, thanks for all the feedback.

I think you underestimate their chemistry together and over-estimate the Jathan thing. Even in the Seddie arc, although their kisses look strained, their closeness is quite evident. (I will concede that the kisses in the Seddie arc are far more strained than the ones in iKiss and iTwins.)  But any time Jennette, Miranda, and Nathan are just three friends who are playing friends, there is a light-hearted almost-goofiness that comes through - Madisen or no Madisen. Maybe it's my age, but Jennette's and Nathan's chemistry never felt romantic, but more like very close friends; it feels more like the chemistry that Jennette and Miranda have throughout the series. (To be fair to you, it happens in real life with people my age when two people have such a strong chemistry.)

In fact, I will go further:  The chemistry between Jennette and Nathan was borderline electric in TKTJ and rivals the chemistry they had in many early iCarly episodes. Of course, that might have been where Jennette's disillusionment with S&C became clear: TKTJ probably reminded Jennette of how much fun iCarly was for her even though they filmed two years in a row continuously, but S&C is drudgery to her. If you want to start with where her dissatisfaction with that series becomes clear, it is there.

I feel putting the lack of Seddie romantic chemistry on Madisen's presence is a bit like the press blaming Yoko Ono for the Beatles' break-up. They had changed as people over the years, but when they just got to have fun in the show, it is palpable. My lack of belief in the writers deliberately pushing Seddie is well documented, so I will not belabour the point. I think they figured they might experiment with it, but as for it being a full-blown relationship, eh, I just don't think so.

One other thing: didn't Freddie's actions in iGoodbye towards Sam and Carly about romance just completely undermine the point that Dan Schneider was ostensibly making in iStart a Fan War?