Talk:Seddie/@comment-5679407-20140711032308/@comment-14284535-20140712192137

@Seth1028 -  For reference, check these writings for my views on shipping and such. I have an extensive set of analyses in my blog. Point by point:

1. Carly's foibles are exactly those that would preclude interest in Freddie. She's popular and normally won't associate with techies and geeks. She is very shallow when it comes with interests in guys - they can't have cute hobbies, for instance. She is very condescending towards Freddie and takes him for granted. As the titular heroine, she should outgrow these by the end of the

2. I apologise for being confusing about the actor and actress points. Of course, Nathan Kress is the lead male. That makes Nathan Kress's character and Miranda Cosgrove's character the default pairing. Of course, that would make the age-appropriate paring for the Sam character to be Gibby, which is borderline ludicrous.

3 and 4. - You need make the following distinction: when they drew up the series, I believe that Dan Schneider had Creeddie in his mind. That does not mean that OTHER writers had that in mind. It is clear that other writers knew how to handle the subtleties of their relationship better. One of the clearest Seddie hints is one I pointed out in iHeart Art - how can Sam possibly know that Freddie's butt looks like a ham unless she has seen enough of it to form an opinion unless she's been checking him out; and is her saying his butt looks like a ham really an insult?

Oh, and here's my Ace of trumps. When Dan Schneider effectively took over total control of the series with iStart a Fan War (production order), he immediately wrote the Seddie arc, had a few transitional episodes, and then dropped Creddie hints the rest of the way. Even the titles were provacative - how does "iRescue Carly" not remind you of "iSaved Your Life"? Even if it is not a Creddie episode, the fact is that you were being conditioned to expect it.

5. If you want the start of the progression towards Freddie, start with iQ. That guy is so obviously uber-Fredde (quick - besides Freddie, name a semi-regular age-appropriate male character whom Carly is friends with who is that smart [you can't]). I do not see anyone from that point on as being Spencer-like - they seem too serious to be like Spencer.

On the other hand, far more telling are Miranda Cosgrove's co-stars in her videos who look like Nathan Kress.