Talk:PappyRappy!!/@comment-5228079-20120717120851/@comment-4542190-20120805214742

Professional fighters work on many more fields other than physical strength. Reflexes, endurance (especially in pain), etc. A friend of mine who did MMA (mixed martial arts) told me that there are people there who can do practice versus 2,3 and even 4 people at the same time. Physical strength on its own can't get you far. Besides, Sam herself has admitted that she learned her techniques by watching matches between pros. This tells a lot by itself.

Kickboxing means a lot more than just punching and kicking- anyone (or almost anyone, except only those who have problems with or miss their limbs) can do that in his/her own, clumsy way. And some methods and teachings (such as using someone's force against him/her) are universal to those who study martial arts professionaly. Training pays off, that's why they do it.

In a "street fight" now, I doubt that Shelby (or any other professional) would go strictly by the rules, especually since this would be about her personal safety/ physical integrity. She wouldn't be that dumb. And you realize what happens when a professional has the right to "not hold back". Those who lose to "street fighers" (if any) are probably not in a serious league (we're talking about a Champion here). So, for me, Sam would have a (slim) chance only if she could catch Shelby by surprise. On equal terms, the odds are one-sided in Shelby's favor. Sure, it would be a grueling fight. But Shelby would emerge victorious (no pun intended).

And what you said about Carly sounded a bit mean. I doubt if anyone not knowing a thing about fighting (even if he/she knew a thing or two) was up against a world-class and Champion fighter would act differently (and remember, this is a sitcom),