Talk:Seddie/@comment-24134478-20141205011235/@comment-14284535-20141205215831

I am about to flatly contradict and disagree with a lot of what some of you have said. Please understand that what I AM NOT saying is that any of Jennette, Miranda, Jerry, or Madisen actually hate Nathan Kress. (In fact, I sincerely doubt it.)  I AM saying that, for whatever reason, they are not close and, if the reasons are for what we have been speculating about for the past several months, I would find their behaviour 100% understandable and reasonable. Yes, 100%. On the other hand, putting most of the blame on Nathan without more justification than, "hey, they all dislike him, so it must be his fault," is at best a stretch - and a very thin conclusion to boot.

@TurquoisePhoenix - I think your position is so untenable that I would say the complete opposite: if 1% of the inferences I have made and/or rumours I have heard and read are true but Jennette and Jerry DID NOT hold at least some grudge against Nathan, then they would be spineless fools rather than the petty and ridiculous. If that is true (and that's a BIG "IF"), then it also makes sense that Miranda may not want to associate closely with someone whom her two of her closest friends hold in such low esteem.

Now, if you actually had more evidence than the seemingly well-founded guesses that Miranda and Jennette both had feelings for Nathan and that they commiserate with Madisen over a common ex, then you have something. Not before. Even so, unless Nathan did something truly horrible, those feelings of bitterness will probably ebb with time.