User talk:Eric the Grape

I Don't Understand your PC re-numbering on iTaC
Hi, I'm not understanding the reason you changed the Category:Episodes on iTake A Cruise from '405' to '505', although the PC is listed in the box (and script) as 405-407. Because of that, the Category is listed to airing in the 5th season and not in the 4th. Can you explain why you changed it, and what source (link) you used to change it? I believe it should be the '405' as listed in the script page and in the box, airing near the end of the 4th season; maybe the finale of it. I'm just curious on how iTaC is listed in what season, and how you know it's for the 5th instead of the 4th. Thanks. Katydidit 01:50, May 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * That's just the airing order, not the pc. I still think that #401 will begin Season 5 according to nickelodeon, but that's just my opinion. --  SeddieBerserker   (talk)  02:09, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

I know
I'm just a adding a few.

Slicknickshady 05:25, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Hi SeddieBerserker! I'd really like to talk to you if possible.

AllzFayre 08:05, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Real life ships
Since some people feel that especially the Jax page goes to far with spreading rumors, I'm discussing with SlickNick and Roxas if we should delete it and if we do, if all the other real life ships should go, too; I'm not into real life shipping anyway, so I don't really feel qualified to make a decision concerning this. Please give your opinion so we can decide what to do. Mak23686 17:25, May 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm in for limiting it to the main cast; MnM is quite short (I doubt it will be missed), and Jax is full of stuff that probably doesn't really mean anything. Mak23686 10:23, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Jathan Page
Does the Jathan page and other real life shipping page have to be deleted. I'll admit there's some fabricated rumors about their dating life, but it mostly about their friendship and it does involve two of the most popular actors on the show besides Miranda, Jennette and Nathan are good friends and work together more so than Miranda sometimes I think it deserves to still be a page. Just my opinion.

--DevonAndersen 23:08, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Also posted the same thing on Mak's page

Your opinion on this blog
You think this blog should be deleted? Some passages and comments might be quite harsh towards Creddie.

http://icarly.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Itzxlucy/Sam_can%27t_just_fall_out_of_love_with_Freddie

Mak23686 19:01, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Another blog
Sockstar calls for deletion of this blog:

http://icarly.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:The_Sam_Puckett/Why_Carly_Is_NOT_Going_To_Make_A_Move_On_Freddie_After_iOMG

(he likes doing that now).

Personally, I think it would be enough to take out the line "the Creddie ship, romantically, has sailed" and work through the comments a little, but please give your opinion. Mak23686 17:40, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Vandals
Unfortunately, no. Several unregistered contributors wrote on Bunnyboo50's blog on Sonic Wiki saying that MeepSheep worked for Anonymous. The blog was deleted because of these comments. Parstin32 19:44, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Jathan.
Since Mak seems not to be interested/busy, can you please go to the Jathan page and make it clear to slicknickshady that he is incorrect with calling Jen and Nathan 'best friends' and that his 'documentation' is no longer valid. He's reverting your own edits and it is going to cause an edit war.

Everyone on the Jathan page is in agreement that they are no long best friends except him.

The wikia needs to be accurate otherwise it's worthless. He's holding the Jathan page hostage and hoping we all get tired of trying to make it accurate. Sockstar1 06:41, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your response. I know you and Mak will take a look at the evidence and come to the same conclusion that everyone who isn't overly invested in the Jathan pairing came to. The accurate and correct one, and not a compromise just to avoid drama that introduces inaccuracy. I also know you won't be intimidated by one person who would otherwise refuse to listen to reason. Sockstar1 06:59, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Jathan page
Since discussing it with SlickNick and Sockstar gets me nowhere, I'm gonna let the admins vote:

Do you think this sentence is needed in the opening paragraph of the Jathan page?

"Jennette has recently tweeted that she is not best friends with, and instead is just friends, with Nathan. "

I think its not because it goes too far into detail for an opening. Mak23686 17:59, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

Check block
Please check this block:

http://icarly.wikia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:SeddieLoves89&action=edit&section=new

Remember to check the deleted contributions.

Mak23686 09:56, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Raging Cupcakes
[What follows is an exact copy of my discussion to Mak (and his replies) about his block on Raging Cupcakes for 1 month for expressing 'hatred' on Sam. I don't know how to post the same message to two people at the same time, if you know how to do that, please tell me; else it will be done separately with copy-paste.]

I wanted to ask you about Raging Cupcakes, banned for a month on May 17. She expressed a hatred for Sam, as you mentioned in your block. Is it now considered all right for us admins to block people merely for expressing hatred for a character without any ship-warring? I'm just wondering how far this blocking is going to go for disliking actors, characters, episodes, items in the episodes, etc. Did she use bad language or something so improper she had to be blocked for a whole month? Just curious what is going to be banned next in expressing views, and why. Thanks. Katydidit 22:25, May 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Naah, the month was probably a bit harsh ... my bad. Two weeks should be enough.


 * Actively HATING on a character or a cast member is inappropriate. Mak23686 22:37, May 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ok, but what is the distinction between *expressing* hatred for a character, and *actively hating* on a character you are making? Also, she *never* got a warning because I checked for it this time, which I think should be mandatory (except in the most egregious circumstances) before actually BLOCKing them. What do you say? And although 2 weeks is better, I still don't see why it should be anything at all, unless improper language, threats, or other valid reason to block someone is made in violation of an actual rule listed. I think we might be cracking down too hard in too many cases. Just my personal opinion, because of our disgust with ship-warring it leads us to do more blocking. WARNING should always be done first, and it wasn't done in her case. I'm inclined to rescind your block completely. Sorry, but I have to strongly disagree with the block unless you can make a case why any block is necessary on her. Let's re-think this "BLOCK mentality first" before issuing a polite warning and THEN if it happens again, consider a BLOCK and make it an appropriate length befitting the abuse. ok? Katydidit 22:57, May 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * I think we should discuss this with SeddieBerserker, before we do more BLOCKs without any warnings, and how severe and for what abuses we block for. I don't know how to post the same message to two people at the same time, so I'm going to repeat my entire message to you, to him. Katydidit 23:06, May 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Addition: I notice in the ICarly_Wiki_Community_Policy, there is *no* rule against expressing hatred against a character, actor, episode, items in an episode, etc. We are breaking our own rules in blocking people only because in our zeal stopping ship-warring (which *is* listed). This can't go on without an explicit rule change on whether expressing hatred is a rule-break, or not. And if not, why are we so concerned if someone hates a character or actor, as long as no bad language or improper action (threat) is expressed. We need your input on this very important matter. Thank you. Katydidit 23:27, May 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * See #8 --  SeddieBerserker   (talk)  23:33, May 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Addition 2: I was trying to post about #8 (when your reply stopped it) on 'Inappropriate' items. It does say 'bashing characters'. I think that should be removed, because it is too vague, and not threatening our integrity if someone expresses a negative view on a *character*. This is a tv show, remember. It's not a big deal if someone does that, as long as politeness is obeyed and nobody is physically threatened. Maybe you think it should be kept in anyway. I would disagree, but if you modified it to rephrase that #8 point in some way, it might satisfy my objection to it. My desire for more robust discussion, as long as it is done politely, is still paramount to me in this wiki. Do you feel the same way? Thanks! Katydidit 23:34, May 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Why does threatening a real person (cast/crew, etc.) equivalent to 'bashing' a character? I don't get it, or the reason for adding that last phrase. Can it be deleted without threatening the integrity of this wiki? I hope at least it could be rephrased, if not eliminated. Katydidit 23:37, May 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Robust discussion is fine. Bashing is not. You should take it up with the other admins if you have further concerns. --  SeddieBerserker   (talk)  23:43, May 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Why does threatening a real person (cast/crew, etc.) equivalent to 'bashing' a character? I don't get it, or the reason for adding that last phrase. Can it be deleted without threatening the integrity of this wiki? I hope at least it could be rephrased, if not eliminated. Katydidit 23:37, May 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Robust discussion is fine. Bashing is not. You should take it up with the other admins if you have further concerns. --  SeddieBerserker   (talk)  23:43, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the change in title to Jennette McCurdy Discography
Thanks for the change in title to Jennette McCurdy Discography. Can moderators only shift titles? How do i become a moderator?Jeneral28 13:22, May 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok.Jeneral28 12:53, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Blog
Yes. Absolutely. Without hesitation. I was hoping someone would ask that. Kenjiro (talk) 02:32, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Explanation for bad behavior
Hi SeddieBerskerer, I just wanted to explain "my" cursing in the Creddie page, and offending the people there. My friend is hacking my account and she was super mad because Raging Cupcakes offended her. I just wanted to clarify that it WASN'T me! I hope you understand, thankyou for your time.

Check block
Check this block, please; if you think we should let him go bc he edited his comment, its cool. Mak23686 18:58, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Forgot the link:

User talk:Mario123boy

Mak23686 19:19, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Punishing an accused 'ship-warrer' before a finding of 'guilty'
Hi, what I just messaged to Mak was this reply on our punishing an accused ship-warrer with a 1-wk block *before* a subsequent finding of 'guilty' by at least 2 other admins. I mentioned getting you into this discussion, and I don't know how to reply to 2 people with the same message at the same time. If you can tell me how to do that, I'd appreciate it. Anyway, here is the text I sent after his ID'ing the accused:

User talk:Mario123boy

Mak23686 19:19, June 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * I went through his last 5 comments: 1 on May 27, 3 on May 29, and one on May 30. I didn't see anything resembling ship-warring. If what I'm seeing on his history (Contributions link) has been edited by him, he seems ok and shouldn't be blocked. If no more than 1 other admin says 'yes, block him', do you then immediately undo the 1-week block, since he was found 'not guilty'? Should admins be punished if we wrongly accuse someone of ship-warring without at least 2 other admins agreeing? How do we make it up to the wrongly-accused ship-warrer if he is blocked for 2+ days for nothing he did wrong? I think there should not be *any block* on an accused ship-warrer, UNTIL AFTER at least 2 other admins agree. IOW, no punishment before being found 'guilty', just as in law. What do you say to this reasonable change? There should be a discussion with SeddieBerserker on our imposing punishment *before* a finding of 'guilty'. Katydidit 19:58, June 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Just warn them, we're not in agreement. --  SeddieBerserker   (talk)  20:01, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Question
I was on the Creddie page (I was bored) and I saw a picture that said underneath it:"They actually ship Seddie?!!" Would that be considered ship warring?

HeyPeople145 02:13, June 4, 2011 (UTC)HeyPeople145

Emailing
How do you email someone? Kenjiro (talk) 22:10, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

How do you specify a target? Kenjiro (talk) 23:00, June 4, 2011 (UTC)