Talk:Seddie/@comment-3247345-20140923070731/@comment-14284535-20140923205524

I am with those who think that DS sacrificed iCarly on the altar of Victorious. I am also with those who think that DS spread himself too thin by taking way too much control of everything. And, of course, I am with those who think that by trying to control everything, he wound up doing nothing well.

I personally despise Victorious. I can count on one hand those episodes where I happened to catch at some point and actually watched them to the end. (For the record: The Great Ping Pong Scam, The Breakfast Bunch, Tori Goes Platinum)  But, to give credit where credit is due, my nieces and nephews can knowledgeably discuss the series with their friends when they think I am out of earshot, so I assume it appeals to its target demographic. It appears that Tori and Jade got more interesting, while all the male parts and Trina stagnated, and Cat flat out regressed. And I thought S&C was worse save TKTJ and, to a lesser extent, Twinfection. (And that was probably some reworking of an iTwins sequel for iCarly.)  And to be fair, no one else I know thinks it was any good either except for TKTJ.

I also differ with everyone here about the Seddie Arc. Although it did not handle the characters well based on how they had been developed in the show, the stories themselves were excellent and I still watch them every now and then. But having said that, I definitely agree with the claims of the increased gimmickry and decreased quality overall after season 3 aside from the Arc.