Talk:Seddie/@comment-6977360-20111129024521/@comment-3247345-20111129070120

I've heard stupid arguments for Creddie before, but this one is the stupidest by far. At least the other ones some factual basis, no matter how tiny. This one has absolutely NO basis in fact. First of all, your first kiss isn't determined by who gave you the most lip action. It's determined by who you kiss first. I thought they would at least get that right. Second, Sam got more lip action. It doesn't matter because that's not what determines someone's first kiss. But still, iOMG plus the whole Seddie arc leaves Sam with WAY more lip action. Are they forgeting about the hour and a half make out session the had before breaking up. They fail on both points. This is worse than them saying Carly was Freddie's first love. At least that claim has a factual basis. (They are misinterpreting the facts in that case but at least there's something to back it up.) This claim is just indisputably wrong. I can't believe they would try to get away with that. That's ridiculous to put even on the Creddie page. Are the Creddie shippers so desperate that they're trying to take the first kiss thing from us?