Talk:Creddie/@comment-3999180-20120120173623/@comment-2032682-20120122084532

Many of them quit the fandom years ago. Unfortunately there was a period where there wasn't many places in the fandom that Creddie was accepted and it lead to people quitting.

Tumblr wasn't popular, twitter wasn't either, the creddie specific forum wasn't around. There wasn't any 'safe Creddie space' back then. Moderators either shipped Seddie or Cam, simply because they happened to be the ones that started the communities. As we have seen here, having friends in high places can be very useful for people who want to be aggressive about their ship and against other ships.

Around the end of 2008, in the few places that did exist as a community (livejournal and a handful of other forums), there was a push that involved some 'well known' and hardcore Seddie fans to drive out Creddie fans by abusing and harassing them, and by dismissing Creddie as viable, or giving it backhanded compliments or saying "they should date for a while then break up before the real ship happens so Seddie fans can ship it without worrying about Creddie happening." Not everyone did it deliberately, but it happened.

It was happening even before the explosion in popularity of Seddie after iKiss aired then a few months later Dan joining Livejournal. iKiss cemented that, if you go back and read the discussion on LJ about it, there's only a handful if any Creddie shippers. iKiss just made it worse than it was already.

Dan showing up made it 'high stakes' because driving away Creddie fans would mean Dan would see far more Seddie fans and not any Creddie ones, thus hoping to influence the direction of the show.

Many Creddie fans left for good during this time, and some of the 'famous' creddie fans are among them.

By the time the Creddie forum started becoming popular (around Sep/Oct 2009), the damage was done, and there has never been anywhere close to the amount of Creddie fans or discussion as there was in 08.

Which is sad when you think about it, considering that iSpeed Date was at the end of 2009.