Talk:Seddie/@comment-5044859-20140425175113/@comment-14284535-20140425232217

@LeahSedandHP - I did try back in 7-19 January 2014 and 11 February - 16 March 2014. There is just no way that some of the Creddiers will every believe that, when it comes to Sam and Freddie, that "I Love You" means, "I love you," that Sam was unhappy about Freddie's crush on Carly returning, that Sam did not take the job in iPear Store specifically to get Freddie fired, and, well, you get it.

Another issue is that they obviously think Sam's evolution is phony and she is still the Sam of early season 1 - she can't be loved and is flat out malicious to Freddie and only has Carly as a friend to put blame on. That Sam doesn't confess that she hasn't kissed anyone on iCarly. That Sam doesn't repudiate her old life by beating her old friends with a butter sock for imprisoning Carly, Freddie, and Gibby. That Sam doesn't let Carly and Freddie dance together in iSpeed Date.

Back when I first joined this board, I asked what kind of guy should Sam get. The one reply that sticks in my mind was someone who said, "another bully who can abuse her worse than she can abuse him." That was grotesque. What really upset me was that I upbraided the person, and got tsk-tsk-ed by the admins. Sometimes, I think they think that what Carly yells in "iLost My Mind" is, "Sam loves Creddie! Sam hates Seddie!  Sam loves Creddie!  Sam hates Seddie!"

They really don't like what I think of Freddie if their interpretation holds: he's a loser and a user who deserves no one until he grows up.